Todd V Dating The 30 Seconds AFTER the Open 06/23/22 тодд пикап менторинг
(0:43) Lecture topic
(1:02) General game model / How to run your interactions?
(4:16) Model for the first 30 seconds
(13:28) Opening lines and formats discussion
(21:50) Formats for After The Open (Mentorship exercises)
(25:01) What category is a push-pull open? “You guys look innocent and like trouble at the same time.”
(25:22) Can you please give 3-5 lines of establishing a chasing frame?
(26:53) What’s the chasing frame? Is it different than pursuing?
(27:05) Roasting?
(27:14) “You have this look....“ - JP format
(27:25) Push pull on command is another.
(27:45) What do you do if you “continue as normal“ after getting a neutral reaction and you continue to get a neutral reaction?
(29:46) When I’m following up with a tease or statement about her, am I risking the set to some degree, or is that the wrong mindset?
(33:21) How do calibrate the positive and negative spikes in the first seconds? What are some negatives you can use early?
(34:22) I’m sure this was answered somewhere in the Mentorship program, but what to do if a girl asks you to buy her a drink? I seem to keep getting this very often during nightgame.
(37:12) If I get a negative response to indirect (or neutral and refusing to accept tease/negative premise) I tend to instigate with “I“.
(39:01) On the last call, you said if the girl gave you a positive reaction (her investing by asking you more questions) after you made a statement/open loop, you said to keep doing the same thing. I assume that increases the chance of her accepting a man-to-woman frame when you get to the premise phase?
(40:44) “I’m not sure if I like you yet, but you don’t seem boring“. “I don’t usually date german girls because I’m a bit outgoing and assertive, and they’re usually cold and shy but you seem interesting”. See if spike works, and I can change the topic and keep vibing until she decides to qualify. Totally bad choice or should I keep instigating?
(42:17) When the set starts direct, with a premise, teasing, and banter, how can you start inserting baseline without feeling like a de-escalation for the girl?
(43:34) Is the ‘I like your style/look’ line a man-to-woman one that introduces the premise?
(45:12) Is there anything flawed when opening a set like “I was curious if you and I would get along“, maybe phrase it differently?
(46:20) Do you recommend setting more palatable frames early on so that the girl is more likely to accept them and then more committal ones later on in the interaction?
(54:12) After open, I vibe with push-pulls on accent, style, reaction with a high-value frame & try to get an IOI so I can start evaluation & negative premise. Does no IOI mean no value?
(56:07) If I get a boyfriend/How old question at direct (or indirect when I set premise) - Reframe it as chasing or instigate or ignore and keep vibing for more value?
(58:48) If I approach after clear IOI (smile, double look) girls are so receptive that I can just ask for logistics, instant date, pull, or number close, get chased in text, and pull later on the first date. I don’t shy away from approaching 9s and 10s just because I didn’t get an IOI, but how do I go about making them chase me just as if there was an initial IOI and I made her dreams come true by opening her? OPENC again and hope she qualifies hard and invests? Or should the “her chasing me frame“ be set so strongly that she starts believing it, while I force her to invest with unanswered/partially answered questions, open loops, and framing it as I’m not sure about her yet even at close? I think it’s the difference between intermediate and advanced, but even though I have no problem attracting them: texting is still neutral, although I know I can pull if I can get her out.
(1:00:29) Following up on introducing the premise on the open, in the past, you said you can introduce the premise anytime during the set. I always felt like the longer you take to introduce a man-to-woman frame, the more awkward it gets. What’s the key to introducing the premise later in the set without making it seem like you had an agenda from the start?
(1:02:36) If they say “How old” - I usually ask “How old do you think I am?“ and they say what they want to hear or “You asked me that question means you want to make babies with me and that’s a bit fast for me. I’m shy you know, let’s be friends first“.
(1:03:15) So if she doesn’t accept the premise you re-open?
(1:04:42) After a successful open with some premise and girl qualifying somewhat, what should be the focus next?
(1:05:17) Is it possible to do a takeaway after you get the “I have a boyfriend“ response or is that a bad move?
(1:06:19) In the topic of a premise, would doing an initially indirect st
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