GABOR MATE : Zionism will be looked upon as one of the greatest disasters in Jewish history.

In this conversation, Frank Barat and Gabor Mate delve into the complexities of trauma, guilt, and the ongoing genocide in Gaza and Palestine. They explore the psychological impact of witnessing atrocities, the historical roots of violence and oppression, and the emotional responses that arise in the face of such horror. Mate emphasizes the importance of acknowledging guilt and rage, while also recognizing the helplessness felt by those who wish to help. The discussion also touches on the normalization of violence and the implications for the future of Gaza and global society. Chapters 00:00 The Weight of Trauma and Guilt 07:48 Understanding the Roots of Sadism 14:57 The Impact of Historical Trauma 21:59 Navigating Emotions in the Face of Horror 30:12 The Future of Gaza and Global Implications