Nick Viall and Natalie Joy: The Value of Therapy

TW: suicidal ideation, PTSD, sexual assault Please find resources, including BetterHelp, the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention, National Suicide Prevention Hotline, and more at For 10% off your first month of BetterHelp visit: Additional resources: National Child Abuse Hotline - National Domestic Violence Hotline - Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network - National Teen Dating Abuse Helpline - National Sexual Violence Resource Center (NSVRC) - Joyful Heart Foundation - In this episode, the Lautners are joined by #1 podcaster Nick Viall and his fiancée Natalie Joy for an incredibly vulnerable conversation about their relationship and their experience with therapy. First, they discuss their recent visit to NYC, where they recreated their first date, as well as their first impressions of one another and any “red flags“ they were cautious of. Natalie, like Tay, works in healthcare (as a surgical technician) and wasn’t in the spotlight prior to her relationship with Nick. They discuss the scrutiny that comes from dating someone in the public eye and supporting someone struggling with their mental health. Nick and Natalie also share the value they’ve found in couples therapy to help them stay connected, and Natalie opens up about past traumas resurfacing and her experience with EMDR therapy. Lastly, your hosts ask Nick what it is about his podcast that explains its remarkable success. The Squeeze team would like to sincerely thank Nick and Natalie for being so vulnerable, and we hope Natalie’s story inspires someone out there to reach out for help. Be sure to check out: @viallfiles Thanks to our awesome sponsors for making this episode possible: Cozy Earth — Go to for up to 35% off site wide when you use the code THESQUEEZE Manscaped — Go to for 20% off and free shipping with code THESQUEEZE Subscribe so you don’t miss an episode! Plus, follow us on Instagram: The Squeeze: Tay Lautner: Taylor Lautner: To learn more from The Lemons Foundation, follow and visit 0:00 Intro 5:44 Trigger Warning: suicidal ideation, PTSD, sexual assault 9:40 Welcome Nick and Natalie 10:05 Citrus Got Real 14:30 Trip to New York to recreate their first date 18:40 Natalie working as a surgical technician: ocular facial plastic surgeon 21:05 First impressions of each other 29:08 Red flags? 32:35 Dating someone in the public eye 36:30 Starting therapy, EMDR, and past traumas TW: 38 : 30 - 38 : 40 suicidal ideation TW: 41 : 30 - 42 : 45 PTSD TW: 43 : 39 - 44 : 55 sexual assault 48:00 Being there for your partner when they’re struggling & couples therapy 53:52 The Viall Viles success 01:02:20 Lemon 11 SyncID: MB01WMZADETRQLC